Excellent news!

Sudan president expected to face war crime charges

I wonder why Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir’s oil tick friends can’t protect him, as they have in the past. Maybe they’re losing influence?

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10 Responses to Excellent news!

  1. Sudan president expected to face war crime charges

    Prosecuted by the UN. Using the war crimes agreements that the US refused to sign.

    Also, while I believe that criminals should be prosecuted under these laws, I wish that they had waited until the crisis was over. This will probably result in problems for the current mission, and endanger even more lives.

    Additionally, if this results in the fall of the current government (which I doubt), I hope that the rebels don’t come to power. They’re worse.

  2. mary says:

    Additionally, if this results in the fall of the current government (which I doubt), I hope that the rebels don’t come to power. They’re worse.

    If they successfully remove this creep from power, then they go after the next creep, and the next, until you run out of creeps. That’s what prosecuting criminals is all about.

    If the UN successfully did this kind of thing more often, I’d change my mind about the organization.

  3. If the UN successfully did this kind of thing more often, I’d change my mind about the organization.

    The War Crimes court was set up by the UN for exactly this kind of thing, and they’ve been prosecuting war criminals non-stop. Charles Taylor of Liberia is one of the more recent ones.

    The US, Israel, and China have all refused to participate or support the court.

  4. If the UN successfully did this kind of thing more often, I’d change my mind about the organization.

    The War Crimes court was set up by the UN for exactly this kind of thing, and they’ve been prosecuting war criminals non-stop. Charles Taylor of Liberia is one of the more recent ones.

    The US, Israel, and China have all refused to participate or support the court.

  5. mary says:

    ..they’ve been prosecuting war criminals non-stop

    Define non-stop. How many war criminals have they convicted since they were founded? Call that group “A”

    Compare that figure to the number of known war criminals they did not convict. How many genocidaires (Pol Pot, Idi Amin, etc.) have died of natural causes? How many French leaders of Operation Turquoise were convicted for their central role in the Rwandan genocide? Terrorism is recognized, infrequently, as a crime against humanity. How many know terrorists and terror supporters have been convicted for their crimes?

    Also, compare that figure to the number of terrorists and genocidaires the UN has enabled or empowered. Compare it also to the number of criminals who have worked for the UN. Have these criminals and enablers been convicted?

    Call the second group “B”. When group B is smaller than group A, the existence of the UN will be justified.

  6. So they’re doing a bad job? Compared to what?

  7. mary says:

    So they’re doing a bad job? Compared to what?

    Imagine that you live in a rural town where the only doctor is a quack who claims to cure people with crystals. You could also say “So they’re doing a bad job? Compared to what?”

    Quacks are harmful because they promise a solution to grave problems, but they don’t deliver. People believe that the quack can help them, and they often die because they didn’t seek a qualified doctor who actually might have a cure.

    Rwanda was the world’s cue to dismantle the UN. The Rwandans really thought the UN and the international community would offer a cure. This delayed any real solution. Hundreds of thousands of Rwandans died.

    This attempt to prosecute the vile Bashir is one step in the right direction, but the UN has a long way to go.

  8. “So they’re doing a bad job? Compared to what?”

    I would say “Doctors elsewhere.”

    What you’re doing is closer to someone complaining that the police are not doing enough when the crime rate is the lowest it’s ever been.

  9. mary says:

    I would say “Doctors elsewhere.”

    Imagine that you lived in a place where the only medical/safety authority was an incompetent quack. Wouldn’t that be a terrible situation.

    What you’re doing is closer to someone complaining that the police are not doing enough when the crime rate is the lowest it’s ever been

    Obviously you don’t live in the Congo:

    The report is the latest of several detailed surveys by the humanitarian aid group showing that since the outbreak of war in 1998, Congo has experienced one of the world’s deadliest crises. The group estimates that the conflict and its aftermath have led to the deaths of 5.4 million people, more than 8 percent of the country’s population of 66 million.

    America has been called the ‘world’s policeman’. America led the invasion of Iraq, and the UN has been in charge of Afghanistan. The UN has also been dealing with the situation in the congo. When Sudanese want to protest the mess their country is in, they protest across from the UN, not the White House.

    People around the world care about who is elected President of the US. Nobody seems to care much about who is leading the UN. I don’t really want us to be stuck with the job of leading the world, but UN quackery leaves us little choice.

  10. Obviously you don’t live in the Congo:

    I’m quite familiar with the situation in the Congo. Things are bad. But no-one has done more to prosecute war criminals or to deal with human rights abuse than the UN is doing now.

    Not enough to stop the complaining though, I guess.

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